tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7151612159692286565.post5302269084731682478..comments2023-04-10T03:24:09.017-07:00Comments on The History of Georland: More about the army of GeorlandUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7151612159692286565.post-86416132859709971602013-12-01T03:43:46.103-08:002013-12-01T03:43:46.103-08:00I've also added a link to Vintage Wargaming ab...I've also added a link to Vintage Wargaming about the later explosive exploits of Franz Stollberg at http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WPPggv-fbLY/TZUITVnY4pI/AAAAAAAAHY4/DeaWsjc74m0/s1600/wells%2Boutgunned001.jpgVintage Wargaminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251018372867101509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7151612159692286565.post-62992521930822004122013-12-01T03:38:22.490-08:002013-12-01T03:38:22.490-08:00I've added a little to the post since you read...I've added a little to the post since you read it about the Franco Prussian War figures which seem to have been acquired in late 1872/early 1873. Certainly Allgeyer seems to be a possible manufacturer.<br /><br />I've found a Heyde pontoon set in an old Vectis auction listing: the drivers in this set look very like the picture of an artillery driver from the collection which I have seen. This is Heyde No3 (43-48mm) size - the figures in the collection seem to vary in scale so this is just possible; it is dated c 1890 but this is the period of the models, rather than the date of manufacture, which is given as prior to 1945. It may be worth perring at the parade photograph a bit harder.<br /><br />Foy - not sure what you mean about comments not being published - I think this was when I was asking for people to give an email address, which obviously I wouldn't then put on the web.<br />Vintage Wargaminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251018372867101509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7151612159692286565.post-2202188310788345882013-11-30T23:53:41.808-08:002013-11-30T23:53:41.808-08:00I reckon there's a whole lot more than 450 fig...I reckon there's a whole lot more than 450 figures in that photograph. I'd probably suggest that the intended figure scale was 1:50, which would indicate 900 figures, but I don't really think there is that many. But I shouldn't be surprised if there is somewhere between 700 and 800, and probably nearer the latter number.<br /><br />The organisation suggests 1000-man foot battalions, 600-man cavalry regiments and 150-man gun batteries, each gun representing 6 pieces. The 45,000-strong army with 25 batteries - 150 guns - is a good and realistic ratio of ordnance to soldiers.<br /><br />But the units vary in size, especially the infantry battalions. Just looking at the 2 battalions each of 22nd, 25th and 31st Foot, it appears that 22nd has 26 or 28 figures in 2 battalions; 25th has about 33 total; and the two battalions of 31st total 40 figures. <br /><br />At 1:50 scale we get what seems to me a very realistic variation in regimental States, varying from 6-700 strong battalions, to one over establishment at 1,150 (23 figures). <br /><br />Estimating the average figure size per battalion by extrapolating from those 3 regiments, 31 x 17 figures gives us 527 infantry. Assuming 12 figures per cavalry (I think there are more or less in some units) 16 units x 12 figures = 192 cavalry. And supposing each gun comprises 3 crew (it seems so from the photo) gives us 75 gunners. Totalling: 527 + 192 + 75 = 794 figures.<br /><br />Not bad! and that's not counting the specialist troops of the bridging train, the sappers and pioneers and what have you. So it appears that we can't be too far short of 900 figures after all for the whole army!Archduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7151612159692286565.post-73890671102778858952013-11-30T23:29:30.812-08:002013-11-30T23:29:30.812-08:00I realise that comments won't be published, bu...I realise that comments won't be published, but wondered if it would be possible to get a bit more info on the likely source and maker of the figures - obviously tin soldiers go back at least as far as Hans Christian Andersen (1805-75)! - do we know who made Franco Prussian troops in this size - do the earliest forms of George's armies predate such soldiers? - what else might he have used?MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7151612159692286565.post-517452034619044582013-11-30T23:10:32.861-08:002013-11-30T23:10:32.861-08:00Yet more fascinating facts,thanks for sharing them...Yet more fascinating facts,thanks for sharing them.Gunpowder guns sounds lethal to lead,H G Well's cannon (spring powered) were damaging enough ! I am surprised there are not more damaged figures in the collection.<br />It would be good to see photos of the forts and pontoon bridge etc.I wondered if they ever were floated in outdoor games/<br />I do hope there are clues to the rules to be discovered...<br />Alantradgardmastarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116967655904601740noreply@blogger.com